HYNEK MARTINEC
海德尼克·馬提尼克


A: How long have you been in London?

H: The very first time I came to London is in 2002, as an exchange student. I went to Middlesex University and stayed for half a year. And then I went back to Prague, and came to London again in 2004 just for two months. That’s when I firstly engaged with one gallery, which I sold my ten paintings to them. And after that I went to Paris for two years. So I came to London around 2007-08, for the first time to stay for long.

A: 你來倫敦多長時間了呢?

H:我第一次來倫敦是在2002年,當時是作為交換生到米德薩斯大學學習了半年。回到布拉格後,2004年是第二次來到倫敦,那次是我第一次和畫廊接觸,我把我十幅畫作賣給了他們。在巴黎留了兩年後,也就是2007到08年吧,我正式開始長駐倫敦。

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A: What makes you stay here?

H: I went to Paris by accident, it wasn’t my plan to be there. Because when I graduated in 2005 in Prague, at the Academy, I got an email from one friend who has a big studio in Paris, mentioning that he would be leaving Paris for half a year, and he gave me an offer that

I can use his studio when he was away. So I had the opportunity to leave Prague and also to discover a new city. At that time I was just planning to stay for a few months. When my friend came back from

India, he continued to use his own space. But before he returned, I got a new space, though much smaller studio, I got my own space and I could work. But at the same time, I was always thinking about London. I mean around 2006-07, I always knew that London was such an expensive place to set up a studio and live at the same time. So you know it’s quite tricky for me, but I always wanted to come here. Living in Paris is amazing, there’s great atmosphere, nice people, good life, and everything. But the problem is, there is no interesting art nowadays, it’s very past, it’s very closed, it’s very difficult to get in the society. It’s true. Because my French is very bad, I didn’t learn the language, anyway. I mean it doesn’t seem very open, but I think maybe staying another 20 or 30 years, they may start to realize that this guy wants to stay here. They will not give you a chance at the beginning. This is what I felt. At the beginning, my journey didn’t get any feedback, and the most important thing is, I felt that my kind of art is going to a different direction in the taste. Because they prefer more abstract paintings, they are quite stuck in the 60s, and I want to do hyper-realistic paintings, I want to do what I am doing now. And I feel that I really suit to this society here where I am in London, and America as well. So I like being in Paris, but it’s very different. The main reason I stay in London is contemporary art world is here, it’s more about your concept, not art form. I think if you go to Europe, to any other country, you will find out London is the most exciting, the biggest, international city, which is very important to me. And there are lots of mixing ideas at the same time. If you go to others like Berlin or Paris, they are a bit stuck by the society, I mean Paris was good a hundred years ago, but I think London now is very open, having so many artists, lots of ideas, and it would not end up in one day. It’s always changing, and the artists always follow that. I do feel that London has something more interesting, more vibrant. You might find out interesting ideas in Paris, people like to talk about art much more than here, but sometimes it’s just talking, not doing it. What I like about London is that you have to take action. If you want to do an exhibition, do some contacts, meetings, whatever, you have to do it. And that’s what I learn about London.

A:什麼吸引你留在倫敦呢?

H:到巴黎其實是機緣巧合的,我本來沒有打算去巴黎。2005年在布拉格美術學院畢業後,巴黎的一個朋友來信說他會離開巴黎半年,而在此段時間我可以用他的工作室,因此我就有了離開布拉格去探索新城市的機會。當時我只是打算逗留幾個月,但在我朋友從印度回來之前我就找到了一個新的工作室,雖然沒有朋友的那個工作室大,但是怎麼說我也算有了自己的工作室,可以隨心所欲地創作。其實那段時間我就一直在想著倫敦,大概是2006、07年吧,我知道要在倫敦生活和創作真的很貴,但我確實時常想著來倫敦發展。在巴黎生活確實很美,環境好,人也好,生活悠然等等都很好,但問題是巴黎現在已經沒有什麼特別有意思的藝術了。大家都沈溺在過去,藝術環境比較封閉,我感覺很難融入社會。可能因為我法語不好吧,我沒有努力去學習法語。對我來說,整個環境不是很開放,或者再待個二、三十年他們才會意識到這個傢伙想長期在巴黎發展。在起步的階段他們不會給你很多機會,當然這是我的個人感覺。所以一開始的時候我沒有得到任何反饋,而更重要的是,我發現我的藝術創作正在向另一個方向發展。在法國,人們比較鍾情抽象繪畫,他們有點被60年代所束縛,但我想向超現實繪畫發展,也就是我現在所作的。我覺得倫敦和美國更適合我一些。我喜歡巴黎,但那種喜歡不太一樣。我留在倫敦的一個主要原因是這邊的當代藝術氛圍濃厚,這裡更注重概念,而不是藝術形式。對比歐洲別的地方,倫敦是最讓人振奮的一個城市,最大的國際都市,我覺得這點非常重要,這裡有很多不同的想法交織和碰撞。在柏林或巴黎,你會感覺當地有點被社會所牽制。一百年前的巴黎很不錯,但現在倫敦更為開放,有更多好的藝術家和想法,而這裡一直都在變化,藝術家也在不斷改變和發展自己的創作。我個人認為倫敦更有趣,更有活力些。巴黎也有很多有趣的事情,人們更愛談論藝術,但是他們更多只是談論而沒有付出行動。但在倫敦就不一樣,你必須付出行動。如果你想辦一場展覽,想建立一些聯繫,想與某些人見面什麼的,你必須切實去做,而不是說說而已。這是我在倫敦學到重要的一點。

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